Comments on: In search of a T20 shallowness metric: Is there a quick and easy way to judge the quality of a franchise match? https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/in-search-of-a-t20-shallowness-metric-is-there-a-quick-and-easy-way-to-judge-the-quality-of-a-franchise-match/2023/01/16/ Independent and irreverent cricket writing Wed, 18 Jan 2023 19:16:49 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.1.3 By: Bail-out https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/in-search-of-a-t20-shallowness-metric-is-there-a-quick-and-easy-way-to-judge-the-quality-of-a-franchise-match/2023/01/16/#comment-271506 Wed, 18 Jan 2023 19:16:49 +0000 https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=28032#comment-271506 In reply to Bail-out.

https://www.zerowicket.com/the-ten-greatest-double-hat-tricks-in-history-cricket-15471/

Agree it needs a better name. But it does seem to be the name. Goodness knows what it gets called when someone takes two separate hat-tricks in an innings, or manages that elusive six wickets in six balls…

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By: Alf https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/in-search-of-a-t20-shallowness-metric-is-there-a-quick-and-easy-way-to-judge-the-quality-of-a-franchise-match/2023/01/16/#comment-271505 Wed, 18 Jan 2023 15:10:00 +0000 https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=28032#comment-271505 10-15 years ago it felt like T20 franchise leagues were the future of cricket. Now I’m much less sure. Part of the problem is that there is nothing organic about the emergence of these teams or leagues – they were originally just the creation of overseas investors and now are basically just tendrils of the IPL. They have no roots in any sort of fan or amateur player community and so their entire existence feels contrived (which it is) for Indian TV and gambling markets.

The IPL and BBL have done a reasonably good job of ensuring some sense of team identity has emerged, by having the same core of players and largely allowing the same franchises to exist for an extended period. Other leagues do not have this advantage and seem to be in constant flux, existing for a matter of months of even weeks and then fading away, ready to be reconstituted or not next year.

This is why it struck me as mad that the ECB mimicked the franchise model for The Hundred. It’s not a style of competition that’s well-embedded in English sports culture and doesn’t even work all that well, outside the IPL and BBL.

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By: King Cricket https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/in-search-of-a-t20-shallowness-metric-is-there-a-quick-and-easy-way-to-judge-the-quality-of-a-franchise-match/2023/01/16/#comment-271500 Wed, 18 Jan 2023 10:20:07 +0000 https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=28032#comment-271500 In reply to Bail-out.

Golf has albatrosses, eagles, birdies, par, bogie and double bogie. Surely cricket can support more terms than just confusing variants of ‘hat trick’?

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By: Bert https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/in-search-of-a-t20-shallowness-metric-is-there-a-quick-and-easy-way-to-judge-the-quality-of-a-franchise-match/2023/01/16/#comment-271499 Wed, 18 Jan 2023 10:13:22 +0000 https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=28032#comment-271499

…a bunch of freelancers temporarily rallied round a photocopied flag.

That’s a magnificent phrase. It should be used to replace all corporate taglines. Starbucks – a bunch of freelancers temporarily rallied round a photocopied flag. Accenture – a bunch of freelancers temporarily rallied round a photocopied flag. Amazon… you get the idea.

In fact, when I am in charge I will make this THE LAW.

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By: Ged https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/in-search-of-a-t20-shallowness-metric-is-there-a-quick-and-easy-way-to-judge-the-quality-of-a-franchise-match/2023/01/16/#comment-271498 Wed, 18 Jan 2023 09:18:44 +0000 https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=28032#comment-271498 In reply to Bail-out.

To be fair on Bail-out, btw, the Aussie commentator on the Rwanda match refers to the four-in-four exclusively as a double-hat-trick.

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By: Ged https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/in-search-of-a-t20-shallowness-metric-is-there-a-quick-and-easy-way-to-judge-the-quality-of-a-franchise-match/2023/01/16/#comment-271497 Wed, 18 Jan 2023 09:13:58 +0000 https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=28032#comment-271497 In reply to Bail-out.

In a partial (idiosyncratic) answer to the “shallowness of franchise matches” question, I find a tournament such as the U19 Women’s World Cup orders of magnitude more interesting than franchise tournaments.

Achievements by Henriette Ishimwe and a youthful Rwanda team has meaning to me, whereas just another T20 (or Hundred) franchise/match is so much “so what”.

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By: King Cricket https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/in-search-of-a-t20-shallowness-metric-is-there-a-quick-and-easy-way-to-judge-the-quality-of-a-franchise-match/2023/01/16/#comment-271496 Wed, 18 Jan 2023 07:25:02 +0000 https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=28032#comment-271496 In reply to Bail-out.

You’re slightly undermining your Nostradamus tipping performance by using the term ‘double hat trick’ you know.

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By: Bail-out https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/in-search-of-a-t20-shallowness-metric-is-there-a-quick-and-easy-way-to-judge-the-quality-of-a-franchise-match/2023/01/16/#comment-271493 Tue, 17 Jan 2023 22:54:44 +0000 https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=28032#comment-271493 In reply to Bail-out.

Can’t find any footage of her two wickets in Rwanda’s one-run win over Ireland in the warm-up matches, but here’s Henriette Ishimwe’s double hat-trick as Rwanda achieved their first ever victory at a global ICC tournament with a 39-run win over Zimbabwe. Now very likely Rwanda will reach the Super Six stage, although given the bizarre nature of this tournament’s Super 6- it isn’t a round robin, since the top-ranked teams avoid playing each other while the teams that sneak in as third in their groups don’t get the chance to nick points off each other either – it’s almost inconceivable, having lost to Pakistan and likely losing to England on Thursday, that Rwanda could progress from the Super 6.

https://www.icc-cricket.com/video/3025420

To be fair it’s not a very strong Zimbabwe team so an upset was always possible. They managed to lose twice to Indonesia in the warm-up matches, first by 1 wicket and then by 15 runs in the replay. Then in the first match of the tournament proper, scored 25 runs against England off 12 overs to fall to a 174-run defeat. But whoever it’s against, you’d take a World Cup double hat-trick on your CV, wouldn’t you?

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By: Bail-out https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/in-search-of-a-t20-shallowness-metric-is-there-a-quick-and-easy-way-to-judge-the-quality-of-a-franchise-match/2023/01/16/#comment-271492 Tue, 17 Jan 2023 22:34:58 +0000 https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=28032#comment-271492 Did I tell everyone to watch out for Rwanda’s Henriette Ishimwe at the U19 T20 World Cup in a comment on a previous article? Yes I did!

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By: King Cricket https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/in-search-of-a-t20-shallowness-metric-is-there-a-quick-and-easy-way-to-judge-the-quality-of-a-franchise-match/2023/01/16/#comment-271490 Tue, 17 Jan 2023 12:33:29 +0000 https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=28032#comment-271490 In reply to Deep Cower.

The premise of the article is really, ‘how can we very quickly do an anything-but-thorough analysis?’

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