Comments on: Defining the proactive batsman https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/defining-the-proactive-batsman/2014/06/19/ Independent and irreverent cricket writing Wed, 23 Dec 2015 16:10:37 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.1.3 By: Ged https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/defining-the-proactive-batsman/2014/06/19/#comment-69081 Sat, 21 Jun 2014 05:27:53 +0000 http://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=11991#comment-69081 It might be said that Sangakkara, uncharacteristically, played that proactive, adaptable role for his team yesterday, choosing to ride his luck in aggressive mode in tricky circumstances.

It might also be argued that he should have adapted back into consolidator mode for the evening session – when his luck ran out the Sri Lanka innings unraveled, just at the point they looked set to push on.

Still, he’s a batsman with over 11,000 test runs at an average pushing towards 60, so his judgement in such matters must normally be pretty good.

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By: cent https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/defining-the-proactive-batsman/2014/06/19/#comment-69079 Sat, 21 Jun 2014 03:18:20 +0000 http://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=11991#comment-69079 … yet

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By: cent https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/defining-the-proactive-batsman/2014/06/19/#comment-69078 Sat, 21 Jun 2014 03:17:17 +0000 http://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=11991#comment-69078 is chris gayle for hire yet, then? … have we got there yet? (-!) he bats pretty proactively *above and before* we even need to do the epoch-defining “w.g. of t20” thing; it’s just the first thing you’d say – SUPER-proactive, *once* he decides to take charge, like. perfect avatar of such an opener, and this in the post-greenidge era of jayasuriya, sehwag, gibbs and that f-t bully, the insufferable fellow from dahnunda that sam limericked (and no i shan’t find the url just right now – sam, you’re the professional here i believe, now there’s a tasty challenge: how fast can you locate one of your own myriad, manifold postcards? 🙂 – anyway, gayle has come to summarise and consummate that ideal into a sort of steel-armed, snake-jointed conjuror persona, with absolutely lethal… argh i’m choking on my own prose here… not often i gush like this these days

i am aware that christopher henry g. is not the purist’s choice of cricketer full stop, except if you end up discovering a fatal weakness for watching an executioner despatch ball after (tender prey cherry – oh yeah thanks for that shane, nice one dufus) ball and watch bowlers literally get all the piss and vinegar, and ultimately everything else, drained out of them at visible rate from one minute to the next.

fucking hell sorry guys. er, long time no blog and all that. i’ll get my –

oops back on the 13 again (‘n off sick… same cause, otherwise unrelated)

p.s. haven’t read the earlier comments

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By: Bailout https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/defining-the-proactive-batsman/2014/06/19/#comment-69073 Fri, 20 Jun 2014 16:05:08 +0000 http://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=11991#comment-69073 In reply to Dredge Dragline.

Your Maj, I can think of plenty of batsmen, sadly none currently in England ranks, who have proven worthy of the epithet “proactive” by their refusal to be cowed into submission by the bowlers when everyone else has been forced quiet. They also go, sometimes unfairly, by such synonymous descriptions as: unorthodox, creative, grabber-of-the-game-by-the-scruff-of-the-neck, a getter-on-with-it, “imposing”, often (but not necessarily) “aggressive” or “inventive”, occasionally (when it comes off) “genius”, more-than-occasionally (though so soon we forgive) YOU STUPID *** WHAT THE **** DID YOU DO THAT FOR?!

Their antonym-players, not mortal enemies but oft-times their great complements and partners in crimemanship, go by such by-words as “cautious”, “watchful”, “stodgy”, “correct”, “responsible” and “consolidator”.

But what you are requiring now, with a player who responds to each ball in the context of the match situation, is perhaps a higher calling altogether. A foot in both camps, the best of both worlds, a truly *all-round* batsman. You need a talent capable of imposing their creative will upon the game even against quality bowling and fielding; a psyche capable when called upon of drawing deep reserves of patience, restraint and responsibility; a watertight technique when sustained application is required; a cricket-sense that can read a match and express their analysis in their play through the magic balance between internal destructive and defensive forces. (And not, as your Maj has correctly and repeatedly pointed out regarding various England players, a quasi-random oscillation between the two modes, frequently manifested as “defend – defend – self-destruct”.)

I’m not sure the word “proactive” adequately captures these specifications. I might lean towards “flexible”, “versatile”, “adaptable” or plain old SELECT THAT MAN YOU BOZOS HE’S A GENIUS.

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By: King Cricket https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/defining-the-proactive-batsman/2014/06/19/#comment-69071 Fri, 20 Jun 2014 15:14:10 +0000 http://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=11991#comment-69071 In reply to Dredge Dragline.

We had a sentence in mind when we started writing this which was going to present our central point. We now realise it somehow never made it in.

It was something along the lines of: Sometimes you want a batsman who plays the ball on its merits, but it’s also important to have at least one batsman who plays the match situation on its merits.

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By: sam https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/defining-the-proactive-batsman/2014/06/19/#comment-69070 Fri, 20 Jun 2014 14:44:01 +0000 http://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=11991#comment-69070 I wrote a thing about growing up in parallel with The Sledgehammer of Eternal Justice

http://learningisfunblog.wordpress.com/2014/06/20/ronald-and-me/

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By: Bailout https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/defining-the-proactive-batsman/2014/06/19/#comment-69069 Fri, 20 Jun 2014 14:37:43 +0000 http://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=11991#comment-69069 In reply to Dredge Dragline.

Perhaps as an extension of that: a “proactive” batsman is one who plays the ball on *his own* merits?

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By: Dredge Dragline https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/defining-the-proactive-batsman/2014/06/19/#comment-69068 Fri, 20 Jun 2014 14:01:50 +0000 http://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=11991#comment-69068 The criteria for your “pro-active” batsman can often be met by the “unorthodox” batsman. Essentially the player who, despite good bowling and tight fields, can play a good length ball on off through backward square leg or belt an inswinging yorker through gully. This is how I think of players such as Sehwag, Pietersen or Laxman. Long may we see their unpredictable ilk.

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By: King Cricket https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/defining-the-proactive-batsman/2014/06/19/#comment-69062 Fri, 20 Jun 2014 08:10:16 +0000 http://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=11991#comment-69062 In reply to sam.

Yep. Absolutely. We hope it happens.

The only thing we’d say about the 200 is that England weren’t stalling when he came in. Bell was at the other end playing smoothly, so it’s not the same sort of a situation. What we’re talking about is when the opposition try and exploit the English reflex to try and ‘dig in’ when things are tough.

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By: Ged https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/defining-the-proactive-batsman/2014/06/19/#comment-69061 Fri, 20 Jun 2014 07:26:09 +0000 http://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=11991#comment-69061 In reply to Ged.

I’ve moved on from the 2013/14 Ashes, KC. As has Team England, so we are told.

I liked the look of Root and Ballance last week and believe, from what I have seen so far, that Stokes has got what it takes.

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