Comments on: Fatigue is cumulative – so bowl Moeen Ali https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/fatigue-is-cumulative-so-bowl-moeen-ali/2014/06/25/ Independent and irreverent cricket writing Wed, 23 Dec 2015 16:10:21 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.1.3 By: King Cricket https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/fatigue-is-cumulative-so-bowl-moeen-ali/2014/06/25/#comment-69558 Fri, 27 Jun 2014 14:29:19 +0000 http://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=12029#comment-69558 In reply to lbking.

It would also have made sense if Headingley were still a seamer, but it ain’t really.

Bang on about Sri Lanka’s openers. Sometimes just enough is just enough.

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By: Mahinda https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/fatigue-is-cumulative-so-bowl-moeen-ali/2014/06/25/#comment-69549 Fri, 27 Jun 2014 14:10:50 +0000 http://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=12029#comment-69549 In reply to lbking.

I can understand Captain Cook wanting to bowl first at Headingley, as there’s always a good chance of the Lankans getting blown away a seam-friendly wicket — get both openers out cheaply, then watch as Mahela nicks one behind early on, bringing in the walking wicket that is Thirimanne…and suddenly SL could be 60/4 well before lunch. I’d have put money on that happening if, as usual, the Tests had taken place before the OD series.

In my eyes, much of Mahela and Sanga’s success this tour has been down to Karunaratne and Silva weathering the new ball. They may not have scored big, but they did their jobs.

Anyway, the toss would have been a tough call. In hindsight, the wrong one. Would have been a good toss for Cook to lose.

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By: Declaration Game https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/fatigue-is-cumulative-so-bowl-moeen-ali/2014/06/25/#comment-69515 Fri, 27 Jun 2014 07:59:28 +0000 http://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=12029#comment-69515 Back-to-back Tests are the norm – around 80% of recent Tests. Teams shouldn’t be caught out by the exertions of playing two matches in two weeks. They should be developing innovative tactics for the occasions when Tests are ‘semi-detached’. More on all of this back-to-backness, here
https://chrispscricket.wordpress.com/2014/06/19/back-to-back-tests/

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By: King Cricket https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/fatigue-is-cumulative-so-bowl-moeen-ali/2014/06/25/#comment-69513 Fri, 27 Jun 2014 07:40:11 +0000 http://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=12029#comment-69513 In reply to lbking.

Arguably, another mistake was winning the toss and bowling. Another day with their feet up would have helped the bowlers (or maybe, going off his own form, Cook thought it wouldn’t be that long) and it seems odd to choose to bat last against a team which ordinarily relies heavily on spin.

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By: Ged https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/fatigue-is-cumulative-so-bowl-moeen-ali/2014/06/25/#comment-69498 Fri, 27 Jun 2014 05:28:14 +0000 http://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=12029#comment-69498 In reply to lbking.

The cause might be cumulative, whereas the effect is sudden and dramatic. That is observed in many endurance problems.

A fair chunk of randomness is seemingly involved too. Throughout the world the military do research into human reactions to extreme physical conditions…altitude, heat, cold, endurance effort…trying but failing to draw conclusions about who can endure what for how long…

In cricket, it boils down to common sense. Freddie lacked that common sense when he bowled himself into the ground (e.g. at Lord’s against those pesky Lankans) and probably shortened his career through one mindless lunge for captaincy glory.

Ali Cook has shown similarly (although hopefully less damaging) absence of common sense in the recent series. His ludicrously delayed use of Moeen Ali on Day 4 at Leeds being the most obvious example. Jimmy and Broad looked broken by the end of the match and I’ll be surprised if both are fit for selection against India at Trent Bridge.

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By: lbking https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/fatigue-is-cumulative-so-bowl-moeen-ali/2014/06/25/#comment-69485 Fri, 27 Jun 2014 01:44:51 +0000 http://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=12029#comment-69485 I actually think that fatigue is exponential rather then cumulative. I don’t really understand maths so may be using those terms wrong.

But when I have fallen apart in marathons it happens very quickly and the descent is very very rapid.

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By: daneel https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/fatigue-is-cumulative-so-bowl-moeen-ali/2014/06/25/#comment-69458 Thu, 26 Jun 2014 16:42:15 +0000 http://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=12029#comment-69458 In reply to Balladeer.

Bring in Stokes and Woakes for Ballance and Robson. 6 medium pacers should be enough to stop them getting tired.

Bring back Collingwood as captain and to bowl some dibblydobblers, and Borthwick in for Bell to share the spin responsibilities with Ali and Root.

Eckersley has FC wickets too, so he can keep.

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By: Balladeer https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/fatigue-is-cumulative-so-bowl-moeen-ali/2014/06/25/#comment-69446 Thu, 26 Jun 2014 14:12:23 +0000 http://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=12029#comment-69446 England should take a lesson from the West Indians, who are playing with a tail five long. No chance of the bowlers getting tired! Unless they’re all out in fifty overs and they have to troop back on…

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By: brad https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/fatigue-is-cumulative-so-bowl-moeen-ali/2014/06/25/#comment-69384 Wed, 25 Jun 2014 23:33:06 +0000 http://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=12029#comment-69384 Since when did you use stats to back up your point?

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By: Stephen https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/fatigue-is-cumulative-so-bowl-moeen-ali/2014/06/25/#comment-69383 Wed, 25 Jun 2014 23:23:29 +0000 http://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=12029#comment-69383 In reply to Bert.

It recalls the quote that “it all came down to two balls” like the rest is happenstance and entirely out of Cook’s control.

Well, seems like it is.

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