Comments on: Let’s revisit the Netherlands’ win over England at the 2009 T20 World Cup and in particular the insanely chaotic final over from Stuart Broad https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/lets-revisit-the-netherlands-win-over-england-at-the-2009-t20-world-cup-and-in-particular-the-insanely-chaotic-final-over-from-stuart-broad/2021/11/04/ Independent and irreverent cricket writing Mon, 13 Jun 2022 09:16:04 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.1.3 By: sam https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/lets-revisit-the-netherlands-win-over-england-at-the-2009-t20-world-cup-and-in-particular-the-insanely-chaotic-final-over-from-stuart-broad/2021/11/04/#comment-268415 Mon, 08 Nov 2021 08:29:06 +0000 https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=26311#comment-268415 In reply to Ged Ladd.

QTWTAINope

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By: Ged Ladd https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/lets-revisit-the-netherlands-win-over-england-at-the-2009-t20-world-cup-and-in-particular-the-insanely-chaotic-final-over-from-stuart-broad/2021/11/04/#comment-268413 Sun, 07 Nov 2021 13:41:34 +0000 https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=26311#comment-268413 In reply to sam.

Nope.

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By: daneel https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/lets-revisit-the-netherlands-win-over-england-at-the-2009-t20-world-cup-and-in-particular-the-insanely-chaotic-final-over-from-stuart-broad/2021/11/04/#comment-268412 Sat, 06 Nov 2021 17:27:20 +0000 https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=26311#comment-268412 Disappointing that England chose not to eliminate Australia when they had the chance

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By: sam https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/lets-revisit-the-netherlands-win-over-england-at-the-2009-t20-world-cup-and-in-particular-the-insanely-chaotic-final-over-from-stuart-broad/2021/11/04/#comment-268411 Fri, 05 Nov 2021 14:53:09 +0000 https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=26311#comment-268411 India are going to win the tournament aren’t they? How predictable.

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By: King Cricket https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/lets-revisit-the-netherlands-win-over-england-at-the-2009-t20-world-cup-and-in-particular-the-insanely-chaotic-final-over-from-stuart-broad/2021/11/04/#comment-268410 Fri, 05 Nov 2021 08:09:20 +0000 https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=26311#comment-268410 In reply to A P Webster.

This is a fine and important point, but it’s worth pointing out that Season 2 also came out in 2009.

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By: A P Webster https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/lets-revisit-the-netherlands-win-over-england-at-the-2009-t20-world-cup-and-in-particular-the-insanely-chaotic-final-over-from-stuart-broad/2021/11/04/#comment-268409 Fri, 05 Nov 2021 07:01:20 +0000 https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=26311#comment-268409 I know this is a sensitive topic and probably a bit too serious to bring up in a comment on an ‘irreverent’ blog, but I’m going to say it anyway:

Parks and Recreation didn’t really get going until after the first series/season, it was actually not very good in 2009

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By: Collywobble https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/lets-revisit-the-netherlands-win-over-england-at-the-2009-t20-world-cup-and-in-particular-the-insanely-chaotic-final-over-from-stuart-broad/2021/11/04/#comment-268407 Fri, 05 Nov 2021 00:58:06 +0000 https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=26311#comment-268407 What on earth has happened to James Foster’s neck in the photo for ball 4? That can’t be human, surely.

In sadder news, the Yorkshire racism story gets worse, and also messier, with Michael Vaughan coming to the party. The main points are still,1: that cricket had, and probably still has, a problem with allowing ‘banter’ to cover all manner of sins including racism. And 2: Yorkshire has responded to this awfully. And I suppose 3: that Vaughan may or may not be racist.

But there are parts of this that really don’t seem to add up. The telegraph article quotes Rafiq saying:

When Michael Vaughan retired, he took up the position as advisor and would often come to YCCC giving his opinion and captain- coach options which particularly were aimed at moving me out of the team.
One such recommendation was for Kane Williamson to be signed and he categorically said he bowls “off-spin” really well too.
This is ridiculous as Kane Williamson is a batsman only.
This comment about him bowling “off-spin” was simply made in my presence to make me feel inferior.

This just seems wrong. At that point, wasn’t Williamson still bowling quite handy offspin, before he got banned for bending his arm too much? And even if it was correct, it seems like an enormous stretch to read that as Vaughan attacking him personally. I hope we get a chance to read the full report at this point. Rafiq has clearly had to face racism throughout his career and is right to be upset at how his complaints have been handled by Yorkshire. I fear that he is now in a very bad place and is lashing out at everything within reach.

Apologies for diving into a depressing topic. Hopefully something good comes from all of this and standards continue to change.

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By: Sam https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/lets-revisit-the-netherlands-win-over-england-at-the-2009-t20-world-cup-and-in-particular-the-insanely-chaotic-final-over-from-stuart-broad/2021/11/04/#comment-268404 Thu, 04 Nov 2021 18:17:15 +0000 https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=26311#comment-268404 Enjoyed this. Terrible England kit.

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By: Ged Ladd https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/lets-revisit-the-netherlands-win-over-england-at-the-2009-t20-world-cup-and-in-particular-the-insanely-chaotic-final-over-from-stuart-broad/2021/11/04/#comment-268403 Thu, 04 Nov 2021 12:37:15 +0000 https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=26311#comment-268403 Lovely piece, KC. Brought back so many memories.

I’d forgotten that Dan van Bunge was still in the team at that time. Several years earlier, when he was an MCC Young Cricketer, he coached me and Charley The Gent for our very first net at the Lord’s Academy. If I remember correctly, he introduced us that day to his mate, Darren Sammy, saying words to the effect of, “this friend of mine is going to be a great international cricketer…I’m not.” Super-friendly lads, both of them.

I went to four days of that 2009 tournament, but not the day of that England v Netherlands match. Daisy and I watched in horror as that final over unfolded, from the discomfort of our own living room.

We were there on finals day, though:

https://ianlouisharris.com/2009/06/21/england-women-v-new-zealand-women-and-pakistan-v-sri-lanka-icc-world-twenty20-finals-day-lords-21-june-2009/

Great memories – thanks again.

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