Comments on: Moeen Ali, England’s second spinner, takes a hat trick https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/moeen-ali-englands-second-spinner-takes-a-hat-trick/2017/07/31/ Independent and irreverent cricket writing Tue, 01 Aug 2017 18:33:24 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.1.3 By: Balladeer https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/moeen-ali-englands-second-spinner-takes-a-hat-trick/2017/07/31/#comment-252390 Tue, 01 Aug 2017 18:33:24 +0000 http://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=18571#comment-252390 In reply to Bradders.

Betcha it can.

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By: Bradders https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/moeen-ali-englands-second-spinner-takes-a-hat-trick/2017/07/31/#comment-252372 Tue, 01 Aug 2017 11:17:41 +0000 http://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=18571#comment-252372 The excellent George Dobell agrees… I quote from his Cricinfo article:

It stretched a remarkable run of records Moeen is accumulating in recent times: already one of just three men to score 1,000 Test runs and take 30 Test wickets in a calendar year (Ian Botham and Jacques Kallis are the other two) after a strong 2016, he recently reached the milestone of 100 wickets and 2,000 runs quicker than Garry Sobers, Imran Khan, Kapil Dev, Botham et al, gained a place on the honours board at Lord’s denied the great Shane Warne and returned the best figures by an England offspinner at Trent Bridge since 1956. It can’t keep being dismissed as an aberration, can it?

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By: Mike https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/moeen-ali-englands-second-spinner-takes-a-hat-trick/2017/07/31/#comment-252371 Tue, 01 Aug 2017 08:40:56 +0000 http://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=18571#comment-252371 In reply to Ged.

Sept Blatters?

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By: A P Webster https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/moeen-ali-englands-second-spinner-takes-a-hat-trick/2017/07/31/#comment-252362 Tue, 01 Aug 2017 07:27:24 +0000 http://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=18571#comment-252362 In reply to Sam.

The memory tends to go as you get older Sam, it must be even worse when you’re dead, so perhaps you died and have just forgotten?

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By: Aditya https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/moeen-ali-englands-second-spinner-takes-a-hat-trick/2017/07/31/#comment-252360 Tue, 01 Aug 2017 06:38:41 +0000 http://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=18571#comment-252360 In reply to Ged.

“I’m still of the view we don’t need more than seven batters,” Bayliss told Sky Sports after the game at The Oval.

Is he going into the bakery business then? This is batter afaik:
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/de/d2/8b/ded28b1c5a873c6a935234f50413656e–batter-recipe-berry-cobbler.jpg

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By: Ged https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/moeen-ali-englands-second-spinner-takes-a-hat-trick/2017/07/31/#comment-252359 Tue, 01 Aug 2017 05:10:51 +0000 http://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=18571#comment-252359 In reply to Deep Cower.

Excellent point, DC.

I was born soon after test 534 was completed and turned 32 during test 1267:

733 test matches in 32 years yielding 3 test hat tricks. On average a hat trick once every 244 matches.

Moen’s hat trick was in test 2266:

999 test matches in fewer than 23 years yielding 24 hat tricks. On average a hat trick every 41 or 42 matches.

I took my own little personal hat trick just before the start of test no 760. There had been no test hat tricks during my life at that point, although there had been 225 test matches.

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By: Deep Cower https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/moeen-ali-englands-second-spinner-takes-a-hat-trick/2017/07/31/#comment-252358 Tue, 01 Aug 2017 04:30:02 +0000 http://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=18571#comment-252358 In reply to Ged.

Perhaps one should normalize that with the number of matches played in those periods rather than the time. Still, that’s an interesting bit of trivia.

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By: Bailout https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/moeen-ali-englands-second-spinner-takes-a-hat-trick/2017/07/31/#comment-252356 Mon, 31 Jul 2017 21:19:21 +0000 http://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=18571#comment-252356 In reply to Ged.

Since a decent proportion of batters are left-handed the unique “all-leftie” stat astonishes me.

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By: Ged https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/moeen-ali-englands-second-spinner-takes-a-hat-trick/2017/07/31/#comment-252355 Mon, 31 Jul 2017 20:36:04 +0000 http://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=18571#comment-252355 In reply to Sam.

If the Old Trafford pitch is anything like the turgid, glued-together sandpit I witnessed last September, playing four seamers and two spinners is not as daft an idea as it sounds.

My problem is the choice of “first spinner”, but that seems to have been sealed for the remainder of this series.

Have I ever mentioned that I once took a hat trick with sort-of off-spin, btw?

http://ianlouisharris.com/1975/07/09/the-day-i-took-a-hat-trick-at-cricket-alleyns-school-9-july-1975/

I don’t talk about it much.

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By: Balladeer https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/moeen-ali-englands-second-spinner-takes-a-hat-trick/2017/07/31/#comment-252354 Mon, 31 Jul 2017 20:14:23 +0000 http://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=18571#comment-252354 In reply to Sam.

I’m surprised he hasn’t mooted Hales as coming back into the opener’s spot. Would make about as much sense, and we’d get hilarious bowling into the bargain.

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