Comments on: How popular are all these Not-Quite-The-IPL franchise leagues actually likely to be? https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/how-popular-are-all-these-not-quite-the-ipl-franchise-leagues-actually-likely-to-be/2022/08/15/ Independent and irreverent cricket writing Fri, 13 Jan 2023 09:09:52 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.1.3 By: Stephen C https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/how-popular-are-all-these-not-quite-the-ipl-franchise-leagues-actually-likely-to-be/2022/08/15/#comment-270124 Wed, 17 Aug 2022 12:25:52 +0000 https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=27406#comment-270124 If we’re talking about point of difference – it’s extremely fanciful but it would be fun to see the Championship IPL-ify itself a bit. More overseas players allowed, played in a condensed window, make it the best domestic red-ball cricket in the world. Could get a lot of the best Test players that don’t make big franchise money (we already have Marnus, Shaheen, Pujara etc). Plus more likely to get Indian players…

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By: Stephen C https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/how-popular-are-all-these-not-quite-the-ipl-franchise-leagues-actually-likely-to-be/2022/08/15/#comment-270123 Wed, 17 Aug 2022 12:20:23 +0000 https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=27406#comment-270123 In reply to King Cricket.

I wonder if the market might find an equilibrium. I might be misremembering but didn’t ITV Digital go under after splurging a load of cash on the Football League? Then reality set in that there wasn’t an appetite for just any old football. As you say I imagine some of theses leagues will struggle to find an audience and quietly fold.

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By: W Pads https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/how-popular-are-all-these-not-quite-the-ipl-franchise-leagues-actually-likely-to-be/2022/08/15/#comment-270114 Tue, 16 Aug 2022 09:49:45 +0000 https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=27406#comment-270114 In reply to King Cricket.

Currently there are very few players who play for multiple franchises in the same ownership groups. The main example is probably Narine with Kolkata and Trinbago, and this season he’s been joined by Russell at Trinbago. Otherwise Obed McCoy plays for the Royals of Rajasthan and Barbados and David Miller played for both until he was picked up by the Gujarat Titans. I’ve seen talk that Buttler has been signed up by the new SA Royals franchise so that would be another.

The IPL would have to abandon the auction before group players becomes widespread. At the moment the number of group players is effectively limited by the number of retentions IPL franchises can use on overseas players (as Indian players don’t really play overseas).

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By: King Cricket https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/how-popular-are-all-these-not-quite-the-ipl-franchise-leagues-actually-likely-to-be/2022/08/15/#comment-270113 Tue, 16 Aug 2022 09:16:28 +0000 https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=27406#comment-270113 In reply to Stuart.

It’s just whether this is sustainable. That’s why we’re highlighting the likely quality and appeal of the tournaments. They promise a lot, but what will they deliver? Will fans stick around? Will TV deals make sense?

Case in point, Moeen Ali was supposedly a marquee player in the UAE league but has just been confirmed for the South Africa one. There’s a lot of talk and then there’s the reality.

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By: Stuart https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/how-popular-are-all-these-not-quite-the-ipl-franchise-leagues-actually-likely-to-be/2022/08/15/#comment-270112 Tue, 16 Aug 2022 08:37:59 +0000 https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=27406#comment-270112 If the franchises run from Jan to June, that covers most of the southern hemisphere red ball season. I’m not knowledgeable enough to say how many of the current Test squads also play for franchises. But what would, say the Aussie or India sides look like without franchise players? Feels like we’re at least temporarily heading to the Packer years with dual formats and weak Test teams.

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By: Ged Ladd https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/how-popular-are-all-these-not-quite-the-ipl-franchise-leagues-actually-likely-to-be/2022/08/15/#comment-270111 Tue, 16 Aug 2022 05:29:31 +0000 https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=27406#comment-270111 The extent to which this might (or more probably might not) adversely affect international cricket surely depends on the extent to which players might choose to exclude themselves from international selection.

National bodies trump franchises for any player whose commitments clash, so players have to hang up their national boots if they wish to be free to play franchise cricket untrammelled. Arguably Eoin has just recently made this call early but equally arguably he recognises that his effectiveness at international level is now diminished but he can still make match/tournament winning contributions for franchises. I have no problem with this.

I agree with KC that all these additional franchise tournaments feel like overkill – although they might have merit within their various domestic set-ups. If that helps cricket to thrive in places such as South Africa and Bangladesh that surely would be a good thing. Like KC I have my doubts about that.

As for these new franchise-based tournaments marking the end of cricketing civilisation as we know it…don’t be daft.

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By: Stuart https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/how-popular-are-all-these-not-quite-the-ipl-franchise-leagues-actually-likely-to-be/2022/08/15/#comment-270110 Mon, 15 Aug 2022 19:38:54 +0000 https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=27406#comment-270110 Just musing, if that’s ok.
Might the IPL be trying to nobble the Big Bash? Not sure why they’d want to do that.
Might they be trying to nobble international red ball cricket so they can take control? Even if some franchises or competitions don’t work, would red ball be able to recover if it was pushed aside for a few years?
Whatever happens with the new competitions in the longer term, in the next couple of years, players who have been mixing T20 with southern hemisphere red ball cricket will have a choice to make.
It could reduce England’s ludicrous red ball calendar though!

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By: King Cricket https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/how-popular-are-all-these-not-quite-the-ipl-franchise-leagues-actually-likely-to-be/2022/08/15/#comment-270109 Mon, 15 Aug 2022 18:24:36 +0000 https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=27406#comment-270109 In reply to A P Webster.

This is definitely the arrangement, but not sure that makes the second tier tournament any more interesting for anyone. Hard to see any colossally beneficial advantage with regards to recruitment for the ‘main’ franchise either.

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By: A P Webster https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/how-popular-are-all-these-not-quite-the-ipl-franchise-leagues-actually-likely-to-be/2022/08/15/#comment-270108 Mon, 15 Aug 2022 17:13:00 +0000 https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=27406#comment-270108 I had sort-of-assumed that the ownership of teams in different leagues would lead to an arrangement where Player X signs with, effectively, the ownership group or (sorry) ‘brand’, and then plays for the Gujarat Globetrotters or whoever in every competition.

Although, to be fair, I spent more time thinking about whether to call the made up team in the previous sentence the ‘Gujurat Globetrotters’ (because of the alliteration) or the ‘Hyderabad Globetrotters’ (because ‘Hyderabad’ begins with the same letter as ‘Harlem’) than I have so far spent thinking about the long-term implications of cross-ownership in franchise-based T20 leagues.

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