Comments on: The Realm’s England XI – 4. Graeme Hick https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/the-realms-england-xi-4-graeme-hick/2020/06/12/ Independent and irreverent cricket writing Sun, 14 Jun 2020 22:21:31 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.1.3 By: Nick https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/the-realms-england-xi-4-graeme-hick/2020/06/12/#comment-263745 Sun, 14 Jun 2020 22:21:31 +0000 https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=23703#comment-263745 The best thing, of many great things, about England in the 90s was how they managed to bring the absolute worst out of so many different types of player. Hick, Malcolm, Ramprakash, three completely different personalities, but all equally unable to deal with being alternately vitally important, dropped, publicly criticised, ignored, vitally important, and on and on.

Or maybe England just weren’t that good.

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By: Alex G https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/the-realms-england-xi-4-graeme-hick/2020/06/12/#comment-263744 Sun, 14 Jun 2020 21:30:33 +0000 https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=23703#comment-263744 Summer 1993; after his early test career had been picked apart by Ambrose, Walsh, Younis, Akram, etc it looked like Hick was finally transferring his county form to test level. His previous ten tests had yielded scores of 64, 0, 178, 47, 68, 26, 34, 22, 20, 64.

Unfortunately England were on a streak of losing seven successive tests and were 2-0 down in the Ashes, so changes were needed. Lots of changes. Including getting rid of the batsman who was making runs.

Which probably means I still haven’t forgiven the selectors! Still, at least when the squads were named it felt like there was always going to be something interesting to discuss…

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By: Tom H https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/the-realms-england-xi-4-graeme-hick/2020/06/12/#comment-263736 Sat, 13 Jun 2020 13:40:29 +0000 https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=23703#comment-263736 In reply to Gareth.

I wouldn’t have said “Flat Track Bully”. He had the game, maybe not the mentality. Illingworth apparently telling him he was soft. I don’t think England cricket in the 90s was any place for talented enigmas . Hence why Nass did much better and Ronnie Irani would get selected

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By: Tom H https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/the-realms-england-xi-4-graeme-hick/2020/06/12/#comment-263735 Sat, 13 Jun 2020 13:34:49 +0000 https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=23703#comment-263735 In reply to daneel.

Good comment about Bell, I reckon if Hick has played a decade later as has the support Bell, despite finishing returns did he would have done far better. A

I still remember his 400 at Taunton

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By: Ged Ladd https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/the-realms-england-xi-4-graeme-hick/2020/06/12/#comment-263733 Sat, 13 Jun 2020 07:12:05 +0000 https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=23703#comment-263733 I don’t think I quite agree with the “flat track bully, not good enough against high-class bowling” motif.

I too was heavily invested in Hick although I my “emotional stop loss” trigger was probably at a higher price, given my antiquity and the wisdom that inevitably flows therefrom. 😉

Hick’s biggest problem, as I perceived it, was a cultural mismatch with big cities and big heaving crowds. He was a small town boy who felt at home in Worcester; a rural, village-like city. The big time made him instinctively nervous and we all know what excessive nerves and tension can do to talent.

In a more modern era, perhaps more cerebral coaching and management would have helped him to solve that problem and the related ones. But perhaps he would have vanished into “one level below” obscurity even as a youngster, as T20 and the like exposes young players to those aspects of the game earlier now, in domestic and franchise competitions.

I think we should entertain the possibility that he is a very good coach. I think it is a shame that he has not been involved in the England set up, but instead has worked for “The Dark Side” these last few years.

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By: Gareth https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/the-realms-england-xi-4-graeme-hick/2020/06/12/#comment-263732 Fri, 12 Jun 2020 20:16:01 +0000 https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=23703#comment-263732 Hah. Well, of course! The King marches to the beat of his own drum. And doesn’t do requests.

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By: Balladeer https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/the-realms-england-xi-4-graeme-hick/2020/06/12/#comment-263731 Fri, 12 Jun 2020 18:11:54 +0000 https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=23703#comment-263731 In reply to Gareth.

Moeen Ali seemed to crop up in everybody’s XI a few articles back. Surely His Maj wouldn’t disappoint us all like that? Surely? That’s not his style at all.

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By: Gareth https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/the-realms-england-xi-4-graeme-hick/2020/06/12/#comment-263729 Fri, 12 Jun 2020 17:34:37 +0000 https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=23703#comment-263729 In reply to Rcaugust.

Yeah. He just wasn’t good enough for whatever reason. Hussain did better than him with seemingly less ability. He never captured my imagination. Though he was awesome at county level and England selection back then was absurd. But he did play 65 tests and averaged 31.

If we’re talking stylish Worcestershire batsmen/offie bowlers that people get emotionally attached to, he’s no Moeen Ali in my book…
Averages 28 with the bat but 160 more wickets. And is just cooler in every way.

Maybe he’s coming later in the team. He’d be in my XI!!

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By: Rcaugust https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/the-realms-england-xi-4-graeme-hick/2020/06/12/#comment-263728 Fri, 12 Jun 2020 17:22:05 +0000 https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=23703#comment-263728 My perspective has always been: bit of a flat track bully. Never really had the game for dealing with test class pace bowling, especially in the era he played.

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By: sidrrrs https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/the-realms-england-xi-4-graeme-hick/2020/06/12/#comment-263727 Fri, 12 Jun 2020 16:50:48 +0000 https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=23703#comment-263727 Ditto to the above from daneel. As evidence of my invested-ness in Hick I recall chasing my younger brother into the garden and viciously beating him around the ribs with one of those plastic tennis rackets when he sniggered at the great man being out lbw to Brian McMillan immediately after belting a couple of fours. Hick fans instinctively knew this second innings failure in an England defeat would trigger the annual midsummer dropping, but on this occasion they actually kept him in the team and he scored a load of runs in the final two tests.

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