Comments on: Alex Hales is not ‘turning his back’ on Test or first-class cricket https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/alex-hales-is-not-turning-his-back-on-test-or-first-class-cricket/2018/02/20/ Independent and irreverent cricket writing Wed, 21 Feb 2018 14:10:44 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.1.3 By: daneel https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/alex-hales-is-not-turning-his-back-on-test-or-first-class-cricket/2018/02/20/#comment-254503 Wed, 21 Feb 2018 14:10:44 +0000 https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=19440#comment-254503 In reply to Balladeer.

I won’t care about ODIs even if England win the World Cup.

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By: Balladeer https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/alex-hales-is-not-turning-his-back-on-test-or-first-class-cricket/2018/02/20/#comment-254501 Wed, 21 Feb 2018 09:26:58 +0000 https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=19440#comment-254501 In reply to Adi.

Think there’s a bit of chicken-and-egg there. England play less FC, England do badly at Tests, English public go off Tests.

I still don’t care that much about ODIs.

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By: Steve https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/alex-hales-is-not-turning-his-back-on-test-or-first-class-cricket/2018/02/20/#comment-254500 Wed, 21 Feb 2018 07:39:11 +0000 https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=19440#comment-254500 In reply to Adi.

This is a fair point. I do wonder how much of a toss the likes of Australian, Sri Lankan and South African fans give about ODI cricket. 4 years ago I’d have happily seen it go, now that it’s the only format England are any good at I suddenly care a bit more.

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By: Adi https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/alex-hales-is-not-turning-his-back-on-test-or-first-class-cricket/2018/02/20/#comment-254499 Wed, 21 Feb 2018 04:37:25 +0000 https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=19440#comment-254499 Hmm, seems like a lot of the recent posts about Test cricket dying have come from English fans and players. Are we sure this isn’t just because England played like shit in the Ashes, and killed it in the ODIs? So suddenly the English public love ODI cricket?

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By: daneel https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/alex-hales-is-not-turning-his-back-on-test-or-first-class-cricket/2018/02/20/#comment-254498 Wed, 21 Feb 2018 04:07:14 +0000 https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=19440#comment-254498 In reply to Uday.

Do other nations even play much First-class cricket?

Steve Smith has only played 53 FC games on top of his Tests.
Virat Kohli, only 32.
David Warner, 28.
Kane Williamson has played 63. I assume most of those are for Yorkshire and Gloucs though.

Alex Hales has played 96, and Adil Rashid 156.

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By: Sam https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/alex-hales-is-not-turning-his-back-on-test-or-first-class-cricket/2018/02/20/#comment-254497 Tue, 20 Feb 2018 23:59:52 +0000 https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=19440#comment-254497 In reply to Uday.

Daneel, that’s one of the most depressing comments I’ve ever read on this site.

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By: King Cricket https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/alex-hales-is-not-turning-his-back-on-test-or-first-class-cricket/2018/02/20/#comment-254496 Tue, 20 Feb 2018 22:46:50 +0000 https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=19440#comment-254496 In reply to Uday.

First-class cricket really does seem to have become an entry requirement for Test cricket in England.

Don’t think this view was quite so fiercely held a few years ago, but the notion that red and white ball cricket are entirely different really seems to have caught hold following the rise of T20.

The truth is that if you look at other nations, they field just as many Test cricketers as T20 specialists in their 50-over sides. No reason why players couldn’t travel in the opposite direction too.

Perhaps these players’ first-class experience has dipped below some threshold such that they really do lack meaningful experience now.

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By: daneel https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/alex-hales-is-not-turning-his-back-on-test-or-first-class-cricket/2018/02/20/#comment-254495 Tue, 20 Feb 2018 19:36:16 +0000 https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=19440#comment-254495 In reply to Uday.

I wouldn’t mind Morgan as captain, even if he hasn’t played a FC game in almost 3 years.

And I’d have liked Hales to try to make it as a Test opener. Maybe Roy will get a chance? ( I doubt it, though)

But it increasingly feels as if test cricket is done (and if it is, so is my interest in the sport). It’s apparent that the ECB doesn’t care about it any more, and if they don’t, who does? I wonder if this is why they decided to finally let Ireland join the club?

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By: Uday https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/alex-hales-is-not-turning-his-back-on-test-or-first-class-cricket/2018/02/20/#comment-254494 Tue, 20 Feb 2018 19:04:47 +0000 https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=19440#comment-254494 In reply to Steve.

ODIs (and T20s for that matter) as the gateway to the Test team is still pretty much the system in quite a few countries I think. The difference in England (and Australia) seems a bit starker than in some of the others.

Its been a theme in KCs recents posts, but its still puzzling. I can understand, for instance, why Buttler might find it difficult to crack the test team since Bairstow is class, but its harder to understand why Morgan or Roy or Hales aren’t candidates for a spot in the test team, even if their limited overs commitments prevent them from playing first class cricket.

It seems a bit like two rival enterprises at the moment, competing for the same resources, when it really should be two (or three) wings of the same enterprise.

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By: daneel https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/alex-hales-is-not-turning-his-back-on-test-or-first-class-cricket/2018/02/20/#comment-254493 Tue, 20 Feb 2018 15:32:18 +0000 https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=19440#comment-254493 In reply to sam.

You should give up writing long form articles and concentrate on tweets.

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