Comments on: Jos Buttler and the myth of a batsman’s ‘natural game’ https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/jos-buttler-and-the-myth-of-a-batsmans-natural-game/2015/11/21/ Independent and irreverent cricket writing Wed, 23 Dec 2015 16:02:35 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.1.3 By: King Cricket https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/jos-buttler-and-the-myth-of-a-batsmans-natural-game/2015/11/21/#comment-241119 Mon, 23 Nov 2015 15:15:35 +0000 http://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=14299#comment-241119 In reply to recordcollector.

All we can say is that it’s possible to develop these skills over time. Tomorrow is a new day.

The mood might not be quite the same, but if you can practise getting you a Double Decker and eating it in your mouth – perfecting that art – then maybe next time that Blue Savannah precipitated perfect storm comes about, you’ll be in a position to properly exploit it.

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By: recordcollector https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/jos-buttler-and-the-myth-of-a-batsmans-natural-game/2015/11/21/#comment-241118 Mon, 23 Nov 2015 13:14:00 +0000 http://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=14299#comment-241118 I know all about this phenomenon and it’s a tricky, strangling, goading fool of a thing. Last week I was feeling particularly exultant (I’d just been listening some best of Erasure) and then hunger came across me, captured me if you will. I was left with a hankering. I strode down to the newsagent (ten minutes away when striding with intent) with a simple, clear mantra running through me head: ‘Gonna get me a Double Decker, gonna eat it in my mouth.’

I swung into the newsagents and the woman behind the counter said, ‘We’re closing now love, grab what you want quickly.’

And then, well I fell apart. Facing the rack of chocolate, the almost boundless choice, with the lady behind the counter tapping her fingers impatiently on the counter, King Cricket, I panicked. My eyes began to sweat, Bryan Adams’s ‘Run to You’ started blasting in my head (I have no idea why, the last time I’d heard it was a family holiday in Scarborough in 92) and I moved forward and my hand reached out and seemingly without my consent selected a bar of chocolate.

I walked home with my head hanging, my cheeks burning red in embarrassment and frustration, my legs sombre and weak beneath me. In my pocket shamefully rested a Toffee Crisp. A Toffee Crisp.

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By: Tom https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/jos-buttler-and-the-myth-of-a-batsmans-natural-game/2015/11/21/#comment-241113 Sun, 22 Nov 2015 19:52:29 +0000 http://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=14299#comment-241113 In reply to Sam.

Graeme Hick?

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By: Balladeer https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/jos-buttler-and-the-myth-of-a-batsmans-natural-game/2015/11/21/#comment-241112 Sun, 22 Nov 2015 18:51:35 +0000 http://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=14299#comment-241112 Well that’s the India-Pakistan negotiations buggered up then.

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By: BailOut https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/jos-buttler-and-the-myth-of-a-batsmans-natural-game/2015/11/21/#comment-241107 Sat, 21 Nov 2015 22:05:34 +0000 http://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=14299#comment-241107 In reply to Sam.

Nicholas Verity Knight had an excellent ODI record: average over 40, the strike rate of 71.5 wasn’t bad for the time, almost a carbon copy of Thorpe’s 71.2. First class average of 44, with a triple century to his name. But in Tests, a Bevanesque average below 24.

My favourite thing about Michael Gwyl Bevan’s test career isn’t that such a brilliant batsman could average a measly 29, or even his excellent middle name, but that he bowled chinamen well enough to snag 29 wickets at 24, including a (match) ten-fer. If batting average > bowling average, you’re technically an “all-rounder”, right?

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By: Sam https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/jos-buttler-and-the-myth-of-a-batsmans-natural-game/2015/11/21/#comment-241106 Sat, 21 Nov 2015 18:29:07 +0000 http://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=14299#comment-241106 I can’t think of many other English players who are widely accepted as among the most talented and exciting of their generation, but only made it at the highest level in ODIs.

Michael Bevan springs to mind, that sort of thing.

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By: A P Webster https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/jos-buttler-and-the-myth-of-a-batsmans-natural-game/2015/11/21/#comment-241105 Sat, 21 Nov 2015 14:43:16 +0000 http://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=14299#comment-241105 In reply to Bert.

I think what you’re talking about is ‘System 1’ vs ‘System 2’ thinking, to use Daniel Kahneman’s terminology. Not sure if he ever did any analysis of batting collapses, though.

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By: Bert https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/jos-buttler-and-the-myth-of-a-batsmans-natural-game/2015/11/21/#comment-241102 Sat, 21 Nov 2015 12:48:00 +0000 http://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=14299#comment-241102 You won’t get no agreement from me on the opposite of what you said. Not.

There is some experimental evidence that your brain makes most decisions for you, and then lets your consciousness be aware of it a few seconds later, with the added twist that your consciousness is allowed to think it was in charge. In any case, actively attempting to let your conscious mind make split-second decisions is guaranteed to mess things up.

We could see this with the Australians this summer. With brains telling them to drive everything pitched up, because that usually works fine for them, they were completely unable to leave these most dangerous of deliveries in wobbly conditions. Ergo, sixty all out, not because they were rubbish, but because they weren’t playing the game their brains were used to.

It is possible for a player to have two natural games, and to be able to switch between them. But this again has to be a natural switch, not a forced one. It is also the mark of a true great of the game – Ponting, Dravid, Lara. If we’re casually expecting the same from Buttler, we are asking rather a lot.

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By: Ged https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/jos-buttler-and-the-myth-of-a-batsmans-natural-game/2015/11/21/#comment-241101 Sat, 21 Nov 2015 12:11:27 +0000 http://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=14299#comment-241101 Basically I agree, but three additional points.

It is no surprise therefore that Buttler can thrive under Morgan’s captaincy – another player who unquestionably gets the short form format and struggles (for no apparent reason) to get the longer form of the game.

The decision to promote Buttler up the order in the last match, in the light of the superb platform built by the top order, was high class. Probably not Morgan alone but very much the sort of decision I understand emerging from the Morgan/Bayliss/Farbrace mentality and I applaud it wholeheartedly. It was a good idea, even if it hadn’t come off. As it did come off, it was a brilliant, masterful idea.

I also think Jos Buttler was basically out of form for the tests and has found his way back into form during the ODI series. Even the best players do go in and out of form. That is a dull observation but is also part of the explanation, regardless of the other more interesting factors.

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