Comments on: The hundreds and five-fors rating – why Moeen Ali is England’s best player https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/the-hundreds-and-five-fors-rating-why-moeen-ali-is-englands-best-player/2017/07/11/ Independent and irreverent cricket writing Thu, 13 Jul 2017 04:16:05 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.1.3 By: Bradders https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/the-hundreds-and-five-fors-rating-why-moeen-ali-is-englands-best-player/2017/07/11/#comment-252054 Thu, 13 Jul 2017 04:16:05 +0000 http://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=18491#comment-252054 In reply to Bradders.

Hail? Hale? Suddenly worried that I have this wrong and that the famously pedantic KC followers will correct me…

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By: Bradders https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/the-hundreds-and-five-fors-rating-why-moeen-ali-is-englands-best-player/2017/07/11/#comment-252053 Thu, 13 Jul 2017 04:14:28 +0000 http://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=18491#comment-252053 Fame at last!

All hail Moeen.

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By: King Cricket https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/the-hundreds-and-five-fors-rating-why-moeen-ali-is-englands-best-player/2017/07/11/#comment-252048 Wed, 12 Jul 2017 19:26:26 +0000 http://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=18491#comment-252048 In reply to John.

Excellent fact. We like the sound of these Chicago Cubs fans.

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By: A P Webster https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/the-hundreds-and-five-fors-rating-why-moeen-ali-is-englands-best-player/2017/07/11/#comment-252046 Wed, 12 Jul 2017 17:51:41 +0000 http://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=18491#comment-252046 In reply to John.

There’s a famous statistic (that I can’t find a source for) that the Chicago Cubs’ attendance is more closely correlated with the price they charge for beer than the team’s performance.

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By: King Cricket https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/the-hundreds-and-five-fors-rating-why-moeen-ali-is-englands-best-player/2017/07/11/#comment-252045 Wed, 12 Jul 2017 17:20:31 +0000 http://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=18491#comment-252045 In reply to daneel.

All sounded pretty entertaining right up until the end there.

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By: daneel https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/the-hundreds-and-five-fors-rating-why-moeen-ali-is-englands-best-player/2017/07/11/#comment-252044 Wed, 12 Jul 2017 16:59:06 +0000 http://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=18491#comment-252044 In reply to John.

They play so many bloody games that averages and contributions to winning games should probably balance out.

I should go to more baseball games. But every time I do it goes wrong. Pretty much every side has a winning home record, yet the Mariners seem to lose 75% of the time I show up. Last time they were 10-0 down after four innings and went on to lose 16-1. And the beer was really expensive.

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By: deiseach https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/the-hundreds-and-five-fors-rating-why-moeen-ali-is-englands-best-player/2017/07/11/#comment-252039 Wed, 12 Jul 2017 14:23:11 +0000 http://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=18491#comment-252039 In reply to King Cricket.

What?! No weighting for the amount of balls faced from left-handed bowlers or shots ending up in cow corner? Hang your head in shame.

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By: A P Webster https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/the-hundreds-and-five-fors-rating-why-moeen-ali-is-englands-best-player/2017/07/11/#comment-252036 Wed, 12 Jul 2017 11:41:04 +0000 http://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=18491#comment-252036 In reply to John.

That certainly seems to be the case more recently John, in these post-Moneyball days, but previously baseball stats were often a bunch of baloney, to borrow a phrase from America – RBI in particular is pretty meaningless.

Baseball does share with Cricket the sense that stats are in and of themselves meaningful though – players from the past are more often judged by their averages than by how many games they won, for example.

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By: John https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/the-hundreds-and-five-fors-rating-why-moeen-ali-is-englands-best-player/2017/07/11/#comment-252035 Wed, 12 Jul 2017 11:29:08 +0000 http://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=18491#comment-252035 In reply to lbking.

I quite enjoy baseball. I get the impression that the hardcore fans wouldn’t accept any form of statistic that requires less than fifteen linked spreadsheets to calculate. Much like cricket really.

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By: Mike https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/the-hundreds-and-five-fors-rating-why-moeen-ali-is-englands-best-player/2017/07/11/#comment-252033 Wed, 12 Jul 2017 09:07:03 +0000 http://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=18491#comment-252033 In reply to daneel.

A Godwin’s law for burly all-rounders, Ged.

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