Comments on: The ridiculous, ridiculous, ridiculous third Test https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/the-ridiculous-ridiculous-ridiculous-third-test/2019/08/27/ Independent and irreverent cricket writing Sat, 02 Jan 2021 13:43:10 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.1.3 By: King Cricket https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/the-ridiculous-ridiculous-ridiculous-third-test/2019/08/27/#comment-260657 Thu, 29 Aug 2019 11:43:16 +0000 https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=21960#comment-260657 In reply to Alfonz Cavalier.

Did you miss this? https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/what-ben-stokes-jack-leach-and-headingley-2019-tell-us-about-test-cricket/2019/08/28/

Test cricket can be great and moving and ridiculous and more. It is vast and sprawling and deep and wonderful.

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By: Alfonz Cavalier https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/the-ridiculous-ridiculous-ridiculous-third-test/2019/08/27/#comment-260654 Thu, 29 Aug 2019 10:39:14 +0000 https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=21960#comment-260654 KC, I love your articles, but this series misses the mark for me. Personally, the Ashes is the only real point (this world cup aside) when following cricket goes from being a nerdy passion to a true emotional investment. It’s about tension, rivalry and drama, not funny curios, as the last test so emphatically showed. A series like this would be better suited to a less significant bilateral series.

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By: Ged Ladd https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/the-ridiculous-ridiculous-ridiculous-third-test/2019/08/27/#comment-260632 Wed, 28 Aug 2019 16:15:52 +0000 https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=21960#comment-260632 In reply to Deep Cower.

I think there is veracity in the idea. But you need to think about it in terms of the quality of the bowling, not the batting.

Gavaskar is talking about deliveries that are so good that they would beat anyone. Deliveries that a batsman simply has to play but that deviate late. In many cases, such “beating” would beat the poor batsman’s bat completely, whereas a better batsman would edge it.

It is counter-intuitive but it does have merit as an argument.

A more common-sense-sounding equivalent is an adage Gus Fraser often applies to bowling conditions, where he talks about ideal pace bowling conditions being those where the ball is doing “just enough” for a good bowler to take an edge. Sometimes, when the ball is jagging around a lot, it might look threatening from afar but a good batsman will be able to tell in good time what he can leave and the poor batsman would just swish and get nowhere near the ball.

Another related adage is the notion that a good bowler works out an individual batsman and goes for the edge of a better batsman, while for the lesser batsman it is more effective to bowl straighter for the bowled or LBW. That is why analysts worry about a batsman’s technique or form if he starts getting out repeatedly bowled and/or LBW – that shows greater deficiency of technique than nicking a really good delivery early in the innings.

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By: King Cricket https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/the-ridiculous-ridiculous-ridiculous-third-test/2019/08/27/#comment-260620 Wed, 28 Aug 2019 09:04:54 +0000 https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=21960#comment-260620 In reply to Deep Cower.

That’ll be Dan’s people, no doubt.

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By: Deep Cower https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/the-ridiculous-ridiculous-ridiculous-third-test/2019/08/27/#comment-260619 Wed, 28 Aug 2019 07:22:28 +0000 https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=21960#comment-260619 On a serious note, I have heard (multiple times) Gavaskar also comment something like ‘good batsmen nick it, bad ones can’t connect’. It sounds good and rather deep in theory, but is actually horseshit if you think about it. A batsman is paid to avoid nicking and make contact, so how is him doing precisely the opposite a testament to his goodness?

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By: Deep Cower https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/the-ridiculous-ridiculous-ridiculous-third-test/2019/08/27/#comment-260618 Wed, 28 Aug 2019 07:17:19 +0000 https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=21960#comment-260618 In reply to Balladeer.

I gave it an ‘indifferent’ too to continue the wonderful tradition. I can’t believe that at the time of this writing, ‘indifferent’ stands at 17% while ‘happy’ sits at a comfortable 40%. Is this the sort of world in which we want our children to grow up? Come on, fellow commenters, make it happen. We can’t let the happy crowd go past us.

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By: Deep Cower https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/the-ridiculous-ridiculous-ridiculous-third-test/2019/08/27/#comment-260617 Wed, 28 Aug 2019 07:09:55 +0000 https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=21960#comment-260617 In reply to Sam.

Enjoyed reading that, Sam — very nice indeed.

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By: Howe https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/the-ridiculous-ridiculous-ridiculous-third-test/2019/08/27/#comment-260616 Wed, 28 Aug 2019 05:32:32 +0000 https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=21960#comment-260616 That’s the first time I’ve seen this series so I read all three. Very enjoyable.

Nonetheless I voted for ‘angry’ because you didn’t mention Lyon’s missed runout.

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By: Deets https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/the-ridiculous-ridiculous-ridiculous-third-test/2019/08/27/#comment-260615 Tue, 27 Aug 2019 21:40:18 +0000 https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=21960#comment-260615 Meh — I thought Kusal Perera’s effort was better. But hey, it’s the Ashes — so it’s self-appointedly IMPORTANT and GREAT!

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By: Ged Ladd https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/the-ridiculous-ridiculous-ridiculous-third-test/2019/08/27/#comment-260613 Tue, 27 Aug 2019 17:36:03 +0000 https://www.kingcricket.co.uk/?p=21960#comment-260613 In reply to Sam.

I enjoyed.

I especially like the mention of the Casablanca misquote and the distance between that mention and the misquote itself.

This poem demonstrates how well you ply your trade as a wordsmith…

…so…

…ply it again, Sam.

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